I can’t argue with the fact that there are many vocal groups against illegal immigration and that many of them are probably full of quite capable people. However, many of those that speak at these rallies have a very hard time doing so. Why anyone would go to a rally they deem this important and give a stream of consciousness speech is beyond me. This speech was very difficult to sit through because Gayle had a hard time just getting to the point, stating her facts, and moving on. Instead she spoke to the crowd as if they’d no clue what they came to see. I’d imagine that if only sixty people showed up then you have about sixty people who knew full well what they were there for and what it entailed.
My advice, though it is free, to these speakers is prepare a speech. At least Ruth’s speech was prepared and you get much more information from it though I wouldn’t really agree with it. If you’re involved in something your heart is in and you feel strongly about it then take the time to prepare a speech.
As far as 287g and Cresitello, well he wanted to have his police officers follow anyone that picked up a day laborer and pull them over once they committed a traffic violation, no matter how minor. These gestapo tactics are un-American and these anti-illegal immigrant groups need to stop asking for more government clampdown and tactics like those mentioned above. Why don’t we all just go ahead with GPS enabled micro chips? Then anyone that is visible, but not accounted for in the “database” can more easily be picked up and deported. Well, if they’re Hispanic of course.
My comments are in blue.
Gayle Kesselman’s Speech: Part 2
I want to talk just a little bit about something called 287g, which is a big part of our Agenda at New Jersey Citizens for Immigration Control. If I say program 287g, how many people here know what I’m talking about? A lot of you, ok, not everybody though. Oh, so that’s good. Program 287g, um, is a program that is run by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement division of the Department of Homeland Security. And what it is, it enables local law enforcement to partner with the federal government in enforcing immigration law. Ok? It was passed by congress in 1996. It’s a well established program. It’s, it’s in effect in numerous places in California, um North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Tulsa Oklahoma just came on-line you know, various places all around. The local government can be a state it can be a county, it can be a city, ok. So how does this work? You have a mayor of a city, like Mayor Cresitello of Morristown, who I guess is a fabulous guy. (applause) (At least Cresitello isn’t as bad as most of these people. He’s even taking Spanish lessons. Plus there’s really been no mention of 287g in Morristown lately as far as I know. The rally there kind of took care of that.) Or you have a country executive, this works very well on the county level. Um, or even the state, the Attorney General of the state of New Jersey could apply.
The state of Florida was the first entity that got involved in this. And what they do is they apply to the program. They apply to the Department of Homeland Security. They go through an application process and when the uh, when they’re accepted the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement sends people to, uh you know the local area. They do a four to five week training program with the police and or correctional officers cause both can be involved. At the end of that four to five week program the police have the ability to interrogate, detain, and begin expedited deportation on illegal immigrants. (much applause from the audience.) Ok. Now they are acting as, in this program, when they finish this program the training program they are acting as deputies of the federal government. They are actually deputized by the federal government. This is actually very important because a lot of these, um you know these groups, the whole open borders crew, you know ACLU, and MALDEF, and LULAC, you know the whole bunch of them they just can’t wait to start lawsuits on any local police force that tries to enforce immigration law. Well, in this situation with 287g in effect the liability shifts to the federal government so they can start a lawsuit, but they’re going to have to sue the federal government because the policemen is acting as a deputy of the federal government. Now all of the procedures that they’re taught and the training is in a conformity with US Department of Justice guidelines regarding racial profiling. So, um, you know they don’t have – I mean there’s no basis for any kind of accusation for racism or racial profiling. (Ok, so there are never any cases of racial profiling against law enforcement. Ever hear of Amadu Dialo?)
And I just want to tell you, I just want to tell you a little bit about how this works in practice because I spoke to Julia Ross who’s um the public relations director for Mecklenburg country in North Carolina which is the county that has Charlotte North Carolina which is you know a major city there and they’ve had this program in effect for a little under a year. And I said well how does this work, I mean what is this, what actually goes on her. Well she said, well of course you have some people that are picked up by the police for very serious crimes, I mean you know, murder, rape, you know robbery, I mean of course you’re not just going to deport them because they got to do time. If somebody, if a illegal immigrant, an illegal alien murders somebody you don’t so ok, you know I’m just going to put you on a plane back to wherever you came from. I mean they have to go to prison, but a lot of people get picked up by police for things that they’re not going to go for prison. You know they’re not going to go to prison. You know they get picked up for a, you know shop lifting or they got into a bar fight or something. The police came and broke it up and took ’em down to get you know, to get booked or whatever. So you have a bunch of people comin’ in to the county jail in Mecklenburg county, in Charlotte North Carolina. Everybody is asked what country they were born in and then people get finger printed and they have these new finger print machines, I don’t know if any of you have seen them, but they don’t have the old ink, there’s no ink, you just put your hand on there’s this little gel and they put your hand on this screen and it does a digital finger print that goes into a database. So these people get finger printed with these machines, it goes right into a database in Washington D.C. where they get information if this person has a case with INS or Immigration and Customs Enforcement. So they can tell if this person should of been deported cause as you may know there’s over six-hundred thousand people running around the country that have deportation orders. In other words they’ve gone through the whole deportation procedure – they’re supposed to be out of the country, but nobody can find them. Ok. So if that’s, if one of these people, uh one of these people that the police pick up is, has a deportation order they know about it immediately. From there they get an FBI number which lets them know if they have a criminal history.
You can have someone in Charlotte Carolina, someone in Charlotte North Carolina just got out of prison, you know they just did three years in Tennessee for something, for some other crime and they figure well I got to get out of Tennessee the police know me here so they go, they go someplace else. So they are able then to find out, very quickly, this is real time computer stuff, I mean they get an answer right away. They don’t have to call some office and wait for some, you know, a call back. (With all her need to “explain further” she must really not think much of the intelligence of this audience. I think we all understand that a fingerprint system tied directly to a database would generate instantaneous results. Computers aren’t a new idea anymore.) They find out right away who are the illegal aliens that are supposed to be deported, who are the illegal aliens that have a criminal history and in Charlotte, North Carolina they fill out a form, once they get the information and then there’s a bus – she told me there’s a bus (she smiles) that comes around every Thursday that takes the picks the people up from the county jail and takes them to the federal detention center in Atlanta, Georgia. Ok, and then they’re out, at least out of Charlotte, North Carolina. What happens to them after that is the federal governments, believe me she has told me that they have done deportation on 2,700 people and that’s in, the program as I said is about a year old. I think it’s a little under a year old, ok. So 2,700 illegal alien criminals have been deported from Charlotte, from just one town, Charlotte, North Carolina in about a year, ok.
So, um, the thing is that um, you know, this program should be in effect all over the place and we’ve, um, been trying to get this implemented in New Jersey, um, Mayor Cresitello has applied for, we had nothing to do with that, it’s actually coincidental, but he’s applied for it in Morristown. I have gone around and spoken to Mayors, I’ve ah, I’ll speak to anybody and any of you that live in counties that uh, various part of New Jersey. If you want arrange a meeting with your mayor or what would be even better would be your county executive or your freeholder. If you want to arrange a meeting with them I will come down and have a stack of documents on 287g. I have all sorts of information that I can give. I’ll be very happy if you contact me through the NJCIC website. You can arrange a meeting and I will do a presentation on 287g and uh, cause I want to spread the word and this is something that people should be aware of because this is part of the solution. It’s not the whole solution, but it’s part of the solution.
Ok. And uh, I just want to close by saying that um you know, as Ruth pointed out the opposition is very organized and they’re getting money from the federal government of the, the US Marines are contributing money to La Raza, I mean what’s that all about, I mean it’s crazy. (I guess you don’t think it’s crazy when Hispanics in the military are protecting your freedoms, or do you?) So, what’s the solution? You know, I know we kind of feel like we’re sort of isolated you know, but we can get organized to. (You feel isolated because nobody wants to get involved with the prejudice actions that follow these anti-illegal programs.) There are organizations out there. There are plenty of local organizations. We need to get organized. They’re starting, the politicians are starting to become aware of the fact that we’re out there. And, um, we can’t let them forget that because they have to be, a lot of what’s going on here is that the open borders lobby is so organized that the politicians are afraid of them. Well, I think it’s time for them to start being afraid of us. (Frank Jorge thinks so too.) (she laughs) And that’s going to happen. That’s going to happen. But we have to, um, get organized uh become involved, write letters – I write letters all the time to the senators you know and they have to know that we’re out there. Send the emails, send the faxes. There are plenty national and local organizations that you all can be involved with, they all have some of them have little different focus here and there, but find one that you’re comfortable with, or couple, you know and get involved with it because they need to know that we’re out there. They need to know that they can’t – they’ve pulled this stuff too long, this has been going on too long and uh, you know, it’s gotta, it’s gotta come to a, to an end because as other people pointed out, uh, this is actually the beginning, if this continues it’s the beginning of the end of our country as we know it and we can’t let that happen. (…and the fear creeps in.) Not without a good fight, ok. Thank you very much.