Church where illegal immigrant took sanctuary for a year to host another woman – Chicago Tribune

This article is definitely going to get the anti-“illegal” activists buzzing and I guarantee there will be some sort of a rally outside this church to deport Flor Crisostomo. Not only would that type of rally support the most negative solution to this issue, but it also does nothing to find and fix the reasons for illegal immigration. This issue is buried within the world-wide mistreatment of workers and all of us common people. Personally I see anyone calling out a fellow human being struggling to live for being here illegally simply contributes to infighting which will not help the situation. If the nativist forces in this country cannot see what is actually being battled here it is truly sad. Though I do believe that most people understand what is being fought for which is why they haven’t allowed politicians to win for simply having the “strongest” stance on illegal immigration.

Church where illegal immigrant took sanctuary for a year to host another woman – Full Article
By SOPHIA TAREEN | Associated Press Writer
6:53 AM CST, January 27, 2008

CHICAGO – Leaders of a Chicago church where an illegal immigrant from Mexico took sanctuary for a year before being deported say they plan to house another immigration activist who is set on defying a deportation order.

Flor Crisostomo, 28, an illegal immigrant who came to the U.S. in 2001, was slated to report to federal immigration officials on Monday, but the head of Adalberto United Methodist Church said she will seek refuge at the church in the same way as immigration activist Elvira Arellano, who was deported to Mexico last August.

In my opinion Crisostomo has to decide what’s best for her though I do commend her for standing up for what she believes in. I know she has children back in Mexico which will definitely be used against her. This is true because the natavist activists will use anything they can to make Crisostomo out to be a villain. I guess, however, that they should say the same about our brave soldiers in Iraq who have children back home to which they may never return. The fact that this is even happening in this country is simply sad. Our open doors, love all immigrant credo is being subverted by anti-immigrant groups that think we should start closing our doors on everyone. Say what you want to mitigate my claim, but a quick glance in many anti-“illegal” activist forums will prove me right. Many of the avatars and user names are very much pro closed doors and anti-Hispanic. I’ve seen one avatar that was a boarded up map of the U.S. with a sign that said “no vacancy.” Is that pro migration?

In this article they appropriately condemn NAFTA for contributing to this issue. Kucinich, though out of the presidential race now, had the removal of NAFTA in his platform.

Obama also believes that NAFTA needs to be renegotiated as stated on his website: Obama has a strong pro-labor voting record

Original story about the raid:

Hundreds nabbed in immigration raid – Full Article

Here’s another article about the IFCO Systems raid: link

There are a few interesting quotes in this article. The first is from Julie Myers:

“Our nation’s communities cannot be a wild frontier where illegal aliens and unscrupulous employees subvert our nation’s laws,” said Julie Myers, assistant secretary for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

If this quote isn’t full simply a loaded piece of propaganda I don’t know what is. It truly claims that migrants are wild and lawless by claiming the situation is reminiscent of the wild west. For a government agent to to use this type of language is irresponsible.

In the article one man claims that the timing of the raid was suspicious. Chertoff’s response:

Chertoff denied the timing of the stepped up enforcement had anything to do with recent immigration demonstrations, saying the investigations began more than a year ago.

Doesn’t the fact that they started the investigation a year ago and planned to raid the plant just days before a scheduled rally go against Michael’s claim? Why hadn’t they raided the plant six months prior?

From this article we read that WalMart was forced to pay for hiring illegal workers to clean their stores.

Last year, Wal-Mart stores agreed to pay $11 million to settle allegations concerning the employment and mistreatment of illegal immigrants.
Wal-Mart has maintained that top executives did not know that cleaning contractors were hiring illegal immigrants, who sometimes slept in the backs of stores. An ICE affidavit unsealed as part of that case, however, asserted that two executives were aware of the practice.

Personally I think if people are forced to sleep in the back of Wal-Mart stores somebody should be helping them. That is a tragedy which shouldn’t be happening in the U.S.

From an article about the Wal-Mart raid we read:

At the time of the raids, the government said they had wiretaps showing that Wal-Mart executives knew the company was using illegal workers. However, as part of the settlement the company will not admit any wrongdoing or liability.

So why are some people arrested and prosecuted as many IFCO Systems manager were, and others who are guilty undoubtedly guilty let go? It seems to have to do with how much money you can pay which is an awful lot like how easy it is to get into this country legally. Luckily in the Wal-Mart case the workers were themselves released without charges. But where did they go?

So I support Flor Crisostomo in her efforts because this country is full of stories that basically illustrate how money will get you everywhere and the lowest man or woman is the one that seems to always be punished. As corporations basically beg workers to come here illegally they are rarely ever held accountable for their actions. Instead of finding the solution anti-migrant protesters will spend their time yelling at Crisostomo while companies and our government continue to look the other way as workers are mistreated around the globe.

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27 thoughts on “Church where illegal immigrant took sanctuary for a year to host another woman – Chicago Tribune

  1. im sick of this church breaking the law by harboring criminals..The leaders who allow these illegals to stay in this CHURCH!!!! SHOULD BE ARRESTED PERIOD.Makes me sick that people will use the church to hide there crimes .Deport ALL ILLEGALS Polish chinese italians mexicans etc etc etc ,This is not a race issue its about keeping a civil country ,without our laws what do we have?????????

  2. Without the laws what do we have???

    We have a great deal more than laws in this country. One thing I’d like to think we have is compassion for our fellow human beings. You’re mad that someone would stay in a church to “hide their crimes”? They didn’t kill anyone so relax. I think God is upset that anyone is putting the laws of man before his laws and I don’t think that God sees anyone as illegal. Illegal is not a noun by the way.

  3. I am feed up with people comin g into this country at night, sneeking through and then claiming that they have rights. If you come into this country illegal the you have no rights and you knew that when you came in….also the pastor of this church should be arrested for allowing this to happen in his church….read the bible and you will see that god says to obey the laws…I have really lost all of my respect for people sneaking into the USA. My dad is from Poland and he did not sneak in…so say good bye and go home.

  4. I do believe the laws of God come before the laws of man. Second she absolutely has rights in this country as does every man, woman, and child on this planet.

  5. The United States is a sovereign nation: God Almighty owns all of the land; yet, He recognized the sovereignty of nations and determined where He wanted each of us to be born. The Bible says, ”And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings.” Acts 17:26.

    If illegal aliens want to become Americans, let them go to the back of the line and follow the right procedures for entry. Let them learn the language and make a personal commitment to leave their old country behind them instead of trying to make this country an extension of theirs. As God said, ”And when a stranger dwells with you and wants to keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as a native of the land. For no uncircumcised person shall eat it.” Exodus 12:48. This scripture can be symbolically translated to say, he who wants to be an American needs to follow the laws and customs of the land!

  6. I understand the quote, but it has nothing to do with illegal immigrants. If you want to translate it directly it states that you shouldn’t move from where God put you at birth. By that statement none of us should be here.

    That’s a heck of a stretch with that second quote. Do you have to be circumcised to be a citizen?

    If we get to make such assumptions then I’ll quote from just above that passage in Acts:

    For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship I also found an altar with this inscription, ‘TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.’ Therefore you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you.

    I would think this could be referenced to mean the way flag waivers like to worship the flag of this country. Is that not a false idol?

  7. I challenge anyone to check an exhaustive online or offline concordance for the word “border” or “borders” to get an appreciation of how many times God’s Word references these terms. While not all of them are relevant to our discussion, I count 169 references, most of them making the point that God cares about them. He cares about boundaries between nations. In fact, it is God Himself who invented nation-states back in Genesis 11.

    It seems He scattered the world’s population and created the diverse languages in an effort to subvert man’s efforts to unite in a global kingdom under a false universal religion.

    Interestingly, one of the prime motivations of those behind the promotion of borderless societies is this very same notion of regional government and global government and the breakdown of nationalism.

    What was wrong at the time of the Tower of Babel remains wrong today. That should be clear to anyone and everyone whose standard of morality is the Bible.

    So, where’s the confusion?

    Some of these misguided Christian clerics cite a handful of random, out-of-context verses that might, possibly, in some way, maybe, be interpreted, if you use your imagination, to suggest we should just forgive and forget all transgressions and trespasses against our national sovereignty and our laws regarding our nation status.

    I would however like to call your attention to just one more verse I think is very relevant. It is Deuteronomy 27:17: “Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour’s landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.”

  8. I challenge anyone to check an exhaustive online or offline concordance for the word “border” or “borders” to get an appreciation of how many times God’s Word references these terms. While not all of them are relevant to our discussion, I count 169 references, most of them making the point that God cares about them. He cares about boundaries between nations. In fact, it is God Himself who invented nation-states back in Genesis 11.

    It seems He scattered the world’s population and created the diverse languages in an effort to subvert man’s efforts to unite in a global kingdom under a false universal religion.

    Interestingly, one of the prime motivations of those behind the promotion of borderless societies is this very same notion of regional government and global government and the breakdown of nationalism.

    What was wrong at the time of the Tower of Babel remains wrong today. That should be clear to anyone and everyone whose standard of morality is the Bible.

    So, where’s the confusion?

    Some of these misguided Christian clerics cite a handful of random, out-of-context verses that might, possibly, in some way, maybe, be interpreted, if you use your imagination, to suggest we should just forgive and forget all transgressions and trespasses against our national sovereignty and our laws regarding our nation status.

    I would however like to call your attention to just one more verse I think is very relevant. It is Deuteronomy 27:17: “Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour’s landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.”

    Sorry this was so long

  9. Please answer the question I posed in my response to your first biblical quotes. If God wants us where he put us then why does the United States exist at all? If borders are so important then why do we not go back to our counties of origin if we’re indeed so ethically Christian? If your argument regarding the bible and borders is correct then not only should we not be here, but we’re all cursed as well.

    Furthermore what does God care about more? Caring for one another and spreading compassion or treating others with disdain in the name of a “border”.

    How much death have we as U.S. citizens sanctioned around the globe? Why do we have troops in Iraq? Why do we oppress other countries by supporting slave labor?

    Finally, what “landmark” do you believe that verse is referring to? Hopefully not an idol of any sort.

  10. Bye the way. You may want to protest the “speak English” campaign as well since they’re just promoting a universal language that will surely anger God. Having people from all over the world here (those here legally) speaking English can’t be good in context of the Tower of Babel.

    Does going into outer space count as trying to reach God? How do the astronauts communicate? I bet in English.

    I do not advocate a borderless world. This blog simply advocates for the humane and compassionate treatment of human beings. Sadly quite the opposite is happening in this debate. The law is made by man and can be changed just as easily. Unlike the laws of God the laws of man are not chiseled into rock. If certain laws don’t make since then they need to be changed.

    With all this talk of God. Do you think attacking one of His servants is a good way to follow His laws?

  11. symsess is highly confused quoting scripture and bemoaning how terrible it is for disgruntled illegal persons to have to suffer our laws. Think about it for one second; I know you are easily confused and befuddled by your own strange illogic; what are we to make of fraud comitted with impunity and defying immigration judge’s orders?,,, I know, I know you don’t believe in the logic of law…..but stop and consider how great our nation is and profoundly generous too. As a 600 generation- plus native, I am patriotic up to my eyeballs. Excuse me if I take issue with someone so misinformed about facts: legal concerns, historical context, etc.; you know those pesky facts?; and is so eager to give away my country on the cheap when there are countless generations that suffered to make us great and actually stand for and mean something! I am not persuaded by Flor or symsess’ arguments to give them what THEY want. In fact they are riduculously disingenous by invoking and interpreting what God wants for them (for her to to stay here) ……maybe they are demi-gods or something since otherwise this is the flimsiest argument EVER made to date!

    In other posts you allude to our own history of tyranny. That may be so, but in your circular logic that means compassion for non-citizen law breakers trumps all other considerations. This simply does not make sense at all.

    As I asked you in my other post; where is your compassion for citizens and citizen rights, Madam?. Oh, I know , your bible told you so. It must be a heavily annotated bible that leans heavily toward generosity to non-citizens at the exclusion of your citizen brethren. Geez. Your arguments make no sense….I give up since you are too deluded to reply to further.

  12. I’m not sure why you assume I’m a woman, but I’m actually a man. Do my opinions seem like a woman’s to you? Very strange that you assume my gender. Do you also assume that people are non-citizens based on their appearance?

    How quickly you turn your back on the atrocities we commit so you can direct your anger towards others. How will this help anything? I’m of the opinion that we must accept and atone for our past through generosity and compassion.

    I understand that the U.S. is the most generous country on the planet. Our private citizens donate billions of dollars to charities each year. Much of this money goes to organizations which help overseas.

    You’re incorrect about my feelings on the law. I follow the law everyday. However, if you took us back two-hundred years, or even one hundred, you could make your same law argument against black people. Both those escaping for freedom and those that defied public order to not intermingle in white areas. Do you remember Rosa Parks? I’m not saying that Flor’s actions are on the same level, but Rosa was a woman breaking the law. Maybe, by your logic, she’s just a terrible law breaker that should have been jailed or deported.

    You say I don’t have proper facts yet you refuse to see a past that clearly mirrors the anger directed at minorities that still exists today. It’s simply convenient that they’re “illegal” so it’s ok to act hateful towards them. So few people differentiate from race or ethnicity when chanting their terrible anti-“illegal” rants.

    I have much compassion for citizens and help in my community whenever possible. The thing is that I have compassion for everybody. I don’t stop and ask someone if they’re a card carrying U.S. citizen before I’ll help them. There are no requirements for giving compassion and assistance.

    I’m very sad to say I believe you are the confused one. You live in a world were anger is better than compassion. That’s a terrible place to live.

    Don’t get too caught up in trying to marry my thoughts on this issue to those of Flor. I support her actions in a hope that people will understand the plight of her people. However, that does not mean that I believe or agree with every last statement she makes. I truly know little of her past, but what I do know is that she didn’t come to this country to give you something to be angry about. It’s called survival and I know that for you and me that’s something we rarely have to worry about on the level of people in other countries – and unless you’ve lived in a home made of cardboard and tin please don’t try to convince me that you did, or do, have a tough life.

  13. symsess, Sorry I thought you were a woman. Let’s clarify some things here … I wrote; “but stop and consider how great our nation is and profoundly generous too. As a 600 generation- plus native, I am patriotic up to my eyeballs. Excuse me if I take issue with someone so misinformed about facts: legal concerns, historical context, etc.; you know those pesky facts?; and is so eager to give away my country on the cheap when there are countless generations that suffered to make us great and actually stand for and mean something!”

    I know who Rosa Parks was. She took a MEANINGFUL stand against oppression and racism with grace and dignity. I suffered myself from malnutrition TB etc as an infant before I was adopted. My so-called rant is more considered and valid than you will ever know…since you have all the answers about what is best for our country…give it away to cry babies that dislike our law when they get busted…I tdoes not faze me even if you say it is a “tough” life. I;m not especially anger as I am fed up with 12-20M invaders thinking we owe them ANYTHING!! If I heard Flor for instance say…I love this place I want to stay and add to what is here. That would mean something. But instead her wrathful god would smote us for not granting her her demands of us. Too much!

  14. Rosa Parks broke the law. So please let’s not make the law out as some kind of god itself.

    I cannot give away this country nor do I want to. I am against statements that demean migrants – both legal and illegal. You’re calling them “cry babies” is not the worst I’ve heard, but what good does it do? Calling them “invaders” is getting closer to the some of the worst things though. If you, having had such a rough childhood, proving that you can battle through illness, feel better turning away from others that need help then I’m sorry.

    Doesn’t helping people feel better than putting and pushing them down?

    Is it really the most evil thing you can think of to be in a country without permission? – and working, no doubt.

  15. symsess, I live in LA. Plenty of your : “helping people feel better than putting and pushing them down” actually push me around on public transit everyday.

    You see illegal immigrants as poor needy souls.
    I, however, see them outstripping me with healthy consumerism, buying property, getting plenty of retail jobs etc. I ask you in all seriousness; how would I, or why would I feel obliged to help? You have some tired, hungry, noble archetype in your mind. It does not match reality.

    Where did I say it was evil to be here w/o permission? Pretty tricky wordsmithing, but again not accurate.

    I know how touchy you are about mentioning the law, however Rosa Park defied the law: Sit in back of bus. Jim Crow “laws” were not technically federal laws. She stands as a pillar of integrity and bravery. I also did not say I had a rough childhood…I was poor and ill. I mentioned that to remind you that we are not all so far away from your so-called cardboard tin house as you think…Your pleas for a broader compassion do not ring true to me. I think you practice highly selective compassion and assign merit to other’s ability to comply with your exact definition. My opinion.

  16. Believe me there’s no wordsmithing here. When I speak to you I feel I’m speaking to someone that holds a particular opinion. However, I may be projecting things onto you that I’ve seen in other anti-“illegal” immigrant protesters just as you’ve done the same to me in believing that I am just an open border fanatic.

    What’s strange, especially considering that you’re a native, is that you can’t see that what you describe as seeing “illegal” migrants outstripping you with healthy consumerism is exactly what the white man did to the Indians. But I understand that we’re stronger than the Native Americans and we can get deport these “invaders”.

    Who are these people that you see taking everything that happen to be here illegally? How can you tell they’re illegal? Do you think they exemplify every illegal immigrant in this country? If a man murders another, or even one-hundred men murder does that make all men murderers? Those people you describe may exist, but they certainly do not represent the majority of the undocumented migrants in this country.

    I’m touchy about the law because I’m tired of people saying “we’re a nation of laws” when I see laws broken every day just driving down the road. Americans break the law at their convenience and then turn around and say “we’re a nation of laws” when it helps them demean or feel superior to another who breaks the law.

    We’re not so far from a cardboard tin house? Are we fighting for our survival or our superiority? Since when did negativity of any kind make way for positive change?

    What more can I say. It seems like you have a direct and local issue where people are taking advantage and making you feel like they’re taking from you. I don’t see what your describing nor do I believe it represents the majority of migrants – documented or undocumented.

    Do you think there are ways you can help citizens in your area without speaking out against undocumented migrants? Maybe rallying around some good causes will lead to better interaction in your community and if the consensus is that you don’t want undocumented migrants in your community then you can work towards making them citizens. (Or maybe not. It’s your choice after all.)

    To finish this up I was rereading one of your previous posts where you belittle my logic and call me deluded. Does it feel good to always be superior to others? I mean you could have just left me alone, but instead you came on this blog and took right to putting me and my viewpoints down.

    You apologized to me for thinking I was a woman. Have you ever had to say “Sorry, I thought you were illegal?”

  17. No mas…..

    I also find it interesting that you equate ancestry to patriotism:

    As a 600 generation- plus native, I am patriotic up to my eyeballs.

    Does this mean that a recent migrant serving in our military cannot be patriotic?

  18. Ancestry and patriotism?… you read into this an argument where none exists. I have many vets in my immediate family….I stated I was patriotic, yes and I am. My father was 18 fighting on Omaha Beach. I all-inclusively commend our military. Intrestingly they are german-american and I am not, so much for your fast and easy ancestry patriotism quip.

    Your other remarks were: …”But I understand that we’re stronger than the Native Americans and we can get deport these “invaders”.

    Indian people were outnumbered and out-armed and still they were skillful and brave not “less strong”… what do you mean “we are stronger than Native Americans”? I’m not getting what you are saying here.

    The many MILLIONS of new illegal immigrants that have poured into LA within the past 3-5 years are easy enough to identify. I have lived here for more than 40 years & have a pretty clear grasp of who is new here and who is not. It is not discriminating to observe that fact every day. If you asked me, do I like it? Clearly I do not.

    Again, if Flor ever stated for the record please include me in what you have established and let me join what’s going on…Great, I would at least hear that she values being here.

    She does not like our policies and laws and is aching for a confrontation to garner publicity to prove how awful we are. It is hard to think of anyone so misguided and manipulative.

  19. It wasn’t meant to be a fast and easy quip. By your statement where you precede the the claim of how patriotic you are, “up to your eyeballs”, by telling us how deep your roots in this country are, “600 generation plus native”. Therefore I interpret that as you stating that anyone here for a shorter length of time could not possibly be as patriotic. If you don’t mean that then I guess you must be saying that you agree with imperialism and have no issue with the treatment of Native Americans.

    My comment about the Native Americans was sarcasm. I have great respect for Native Americans and believe them to be extremely brave; however, they did not stand a chance against the new European settlers. The claim of many anti-“illegal” immigrant activists what these new “illegal” migrants are doing (“invading”) is similar to what Europeans did to the Indians. (Though they don’t actually make that comparison) So what anti-“illegal” immigrant activists argue is that we’re losing our language, culture, etc. and that if we don’t get rid of these “invaders” then we’ll soon be taken over and the U.S. will no longer exist.

    What has been established? What is it that’s going on? I believe she did align herself with activist groups during the year leading up to her decision.

  20. Getting baited into other unrelated arguments is not my aim. The genocide of my ancestors is not a cause for anything except utter sorrow and anguish. Imperialism? What are you talking about? Where have I implied complicity with imperialism? I’m a real person and I live here today…I am not a neat category or anti-illegal bloc.
    My patriotism lauds anyone that has or will enhance this country. My beef and interest in respodning to this blog from a google search is to air my personal dislike of a person, Flor, that has not offered anything except a critique and her complaints of how we are mean to her. She is a pawn to her “activist” groups and someone I owe nothing to. Unless, as I said, she did something noteable-she has no credence as a spokesperson for anything of value, we shall see if she decides she really loves our country and decides to actually contribute to it. I don’t see that happening.

  21. Her decision to take a stand and speak from her heart no more represent the total of undocumented migrants than my blog represents pro-migrant activists. She is a single person taking a stand and making a statement. It’s quite obvious that not everyone will agree with her every word. However, it’s clear that she didn’t come to the U.S. to simply crap on us citizens.

    I guess in today’s world traveling far from your family while risking death to support them isn’t notable enough. When she worked was she not contributing to our country?

    Well we obviously don’t agree on many things so let’s just leave it at that.

  22. The open border loons are having an anal-cranial inversion. Illegal means against the law of the land. Far-left liberals are just oo stupid to get it.

  23. Nice words. It only goes to show how hateful and angry you are. When as hatred ever done any good?

    Everyone understands what “illegal” means. Everyone also understands the mindset of a person that enjoys calling others stupid. Oh that festering mind just drooling with the green stinking liquid of hate.

  24. Regarding Ms. Flor Crisostomo’s quote in the Sunday Houston Chronicle, “We need to show the government that we are many, we are strong, we are humans and we deserve respect in this country”.

    Let’s break this down:
    1. The government is the American citizen. The people we elect represent US, the will of the people.
    2. We are many, yes, that is the problem. 12 to 20 million illegals.
    3. We are strong, Why do you not go back to your own county and use those numbers and that strength to make the changes needed to have the life you want there.
    4. We deserve respect in this country. Why do you deserve respect? You sneek into our country illegally, you break our laws, take our jobs, clog up our ER’s so you don’t have to pay a doctor, over crowd out schools, you are a very heavy burden on Social Services and on and on. I have as much respect for you as I do any other crimminal.
    5. Undocmented IS illegal, wish you would all get that one straight.
    This has nothing to do with race, hate or any of the other accusations illegals throw out there when talking about American’s who are seeing their country invaded by the people of other countries. We welcome more immigrants into our country every year than all other countries combined. Get in line and do it legal and you will be welcomed with open arms, sneek in and you are not welcome.
    Why do illegals think they have a RIGHT to be here?
    I have friends from several countries, I think diversity is what has made this country great, but we can not continue to obsorbe the poverty of the world. We are a county of laws, if American citizens have to follow the law or pay the price so should you.

  25. I prefer not to use the word “illegal” to describe an undocumented person, but as you claim you “have as much respect for you (the undocumented) as I do any other criminal” it’s obvious that you must feel murder is akin to being in this country without permission. Personally I see it as more akin to speeding which I’d imaging you’ve done your share, but hopefully you have self respect.

    I’m not sure what having friends from several countries has to do with treating people with common dignity and respect while recognizing universal laws of common morality.

    The government should be the American citizen, but sadly that is untrue. See Cheney’s comment of “so” when asked on his thoughts that so many oppose the war. Does that sound like a government official listening to the people?

    Why do you deserve respect? You sneek into our country illegally, you break our laws, take our jobs, clog up our ER’s so you don’t have to pay a doctor, over crowd out schools, you are a very heavy burden on Social Services

    Yes, human beings deserve respect – it’s a universal truth. You make it seem as though these migrants are breaking so many laws, when this just isn’t true. Not to many of those hear did not sneak across the border. Rather they overstayed visas, but in your anger it may not be worthwhile to search for the truth. As far as social services this is also false. They do not place a burden on social services and in fact they pay billions into Social Security which may be the only thing keeping it alive right now.

    Why should we absorb the poverty of the world. Instead let’s fight it.

    As migrants are unfairly detained and criminalized and as more laws are created across the country we’ll see our rights go to. This is about human rights more than anything.

    Speeding is such an easy target I use it time and time again. Americans don’t have to follow the law, they just have to avoid being caught. You’re not a law breaker unless you’re got apparently as we see so many speeding and talking on their cell phones while driving – truly that puts all of us on the road in danger.

    Do your point number 3 I’d say why didn’t we? This is the land of opportunity so I’ve been told so it only makes sense they’d want to be a part of it.

    Finally, for many there is no line to get in. I know the idea sounds quaint, but if I were you I’d spend some time researching U.S. immigration laws.

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