Many of us are not too excited with our government and would like some changes. That’s why there’s such a showing this election cycle at the polls. That’s why the idea of creating history with Obama or Clinton has many believing that we can see real change. We have let our government take things and do things they should not. The Iraq War is basically enough said as far as I’m concerned.
A person calling themselves Phantom Consumer decided to add the following commentary onto one of my posts. It had nothing to do with the topic so I didn’t allow it. However, I’m adding it as a post here, along with my comments. As you’ll read Phantom Consumer is calling for a revolution. Though the post does not clearly state violence as a means for this revolution it does elude to it. Of course, this person wouldn’t be the first I’ve heard calling for a revolution or civil war because of the current immigration issue.
The basis and ‘plan’ for this person’s desire for revolution is Thomas Paine’s Common Sense, which I believe is a call to tyranny’s end (not a plan for anti-migrant protesters to throw out the poor, migrants and the handicapped as this person suggests they are the ‘problem’ with our country). It basically states society is good and government is evil – though a necessary one. This is something I agree with which is why I believe compassion is the only way we’re going to create positive change. War is a maneuver of government and only feeds into a cycle that has not yet lead to a ‘perfect’ nation. The United States has come close, and is the closest to this idea, but we have a ways to go.
Here is an important quote from “Common Sense” in context to Phantom Consumer’s post:
“O ye that love mankind! Ye that dare oppose, not only the tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth! Every spot of the old world is over-run with oppression. Freedom hath been hunted round the globe. Asia and Africa, have long expelled her. – Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! receive the fugitive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind.”
That asylum is America. The oppressor is anyone who has the authority, whether real or imagined, to demean another person who has not. This post from Phantom Consumer is from an oppressor as this person seeks to put beneath them the poor, the migrants and the handicapped.
We also read from “Common Sense”:
“The reformation was preceded by the discovery of America, as if the Almighty graciously meant to open sanctuary to the persecuted in future years, when home should afford neither friendship or safety.”
I also like this quote from Letters from an American Farmer and Sketches of Eighteenth-Century America:
“The American is a new man, who acts upon new principles; he must therefore entertain new ideas, and form new opinions. . . . Here individuals of all nations are melted into a new race of men, whose labours and posterity will one day cause great changes in the world. . . . An [immigrant] when he first arrives . . . no sooner breathes our air than he forms new schemes, and embarks in designs he never would have thought of in his own country. . . . He begins to feel the effects of a sort of resurrection; hitherto he had not lived, but simply vegetated; he now feels himself a man . . . Judge what an alteration there must arise in the mind and thoughts of this man; . . . his heart involuntarily swells and glows; this first swell inspires him with those new thoughts which constitute an American. “
-Hector St. John de Crevecoeur
Now here’s the post from Phantom Consumer in black with my comments in blue:
What is a government when that government no longer serves the very people that it was established to serve?
I can agree that the government is not serving us well as I believe the Iraq War is a travesty and we have a vice president that answers “so” when told the American people do not agree with the war.
When any person that is not a legal US citizen takes food from the mouths of legal citizens and legal residents; they are quite simply illegal scumaliens. Illegal aliens, the likes of you, the media and many of our political leaders have destroyed the cities and towns throughout the US; we no longer have adequate funding for our educational system, for senior programs, municipal budgets that provide public safety and other necessary municipal services.
The use of the term scumalien gives little credibility to this commentary. If they want to comment on the poor state of our economy that’s fine, but it has nothing to do with undocumented migrants and creating terrible slang terms to vilify people is simply deplorable. What about jobs and manufacturing being lost because the supposed citizens that want the work, even given a fair wage, are nowhere to be found? I guess the destruction of our economy and society is not important as long as migrants aren’t around to be a part of it (though they’d help keep it from happening).
I do not know how many Americans have ever read the book “Common Sense” it was written by Thomas Paine (1776). I have read this book; I feel that despite this book dates back to (1776); that we today could also use this book as a blue print for the next American Revolution. Yes, that is right; we the people overthrow the corrupt government of these United States; we must also send a clear and concise message to our political leaders, our military leaders and our judicial leaders; that their lack of performance, their corruption and their disappointing behavior will not be tolerated any longer. There are numerous obstacles that exist today, that were nonexistent in 1776; such as the media. Yes, the biased, corrupt, parasitic media; I believe they are one of the primary reasons for the decline of American Morality.
This Phantom wants a revolution and to overthrow the government? Is this a call to violence? I’ve read “Common Sense”, as I’m sure many have. Thomas Paine speaks to repression “Mankind being originally equals in creation, the equality could only be destroyed by some subsequent circumstance: the distinctions of rich, and poor, may in a great measure be accounted for, and that without having recourse to the harsh, ill-sounding names of oppression and avarice.” Who has become the rich when we look at the world, but America itself? Yet this commenter opines that we should cast out the poor, the migrants and the handicapped. Maybe Americans as a whole are the greedy oppressor and those poor in other countries who make our every desire and need affordable are the ones that should start the revolution.
I have attached a copy of the introduction from “Common Sense” please take a minute and read this;
Introduction to the Third Edition
Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour; a long habit of not thinking a thing WRONG, gives it a superficial appearance of being RIGHT, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason.
Here I see Paine telling us that a custom is not right simply because it’s been driven into us by the powers that be and through our environment. In the case of immigration the powers that be, and the anti-migrants, have been driving into us that foreigners are not welcome here and are beneath us. Ever since the first wave of migration anti-migrant and nativist sentiment as been the order of the day. So I agree, many may feel it is wrong to embrace compassion and allow migrants in, but our ‘customs’ don’t make it wrong. It’s only that it’s been the norm for so long that it appears wrong. This country seams to go through cycles of vilification and advocation.
As a long and violent abuse of power, is generally the Means of calling the right of it in question (and in Matters too which might never have been thought of, had not the Sufferers been aggravated into the inquiry) and as the King of England hath undertaken in his OWN RIGHT, to support the Parliament in what he calls THEIRS, and as the good people of this country are grievously oppressed by the combination, they have an undoubted privilege to inquire into the pretensions of both, and equally to reject the usurpation of either.
One could argue that the true usurpation was our doing in the taking this land from the Native Americans. Though I realize we live under a natural and divine ‘white’ light that somehow made it ok for us Europeans to come here and slaughter another of God’s people. But, in speaking of England or the present United States what has been taken but many people’s desire to participate? Isn’t that truly the problem here? So many people don’t even vote and those that do apparently don’t get involved much outside the ballot box. I see this because many anti-migrant politicians are not being elected or are being removed from office yet the loudest voice (and the angriest) is that of the anti-migrant. As far as problems with our government go, I believe the Constitution is fine; we just need to actually listen and adhere to the what it’s telling us. “All men are created equal.”
In the following sheets, the author hath studiously avoided every thing which is personal among ourselves. Compliments as well as censure to individuals make no part thereof. The wise, and the worthy, need not the triumph of a pamphlet; and those whose sentiments are injudicious, or unfriendly, will cease of themselves unless too much pains are bestowed upon their conversion.
Who gives the unjust and unfriendly sentiment in this debate? Those advocating for migrants or those advocating for their deportation and that we close the door for good on every migrant to come?
The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. Many circumstances hath, and will arise, which are not local, but universal, and through which the principles of all Lovers of Mankind are affected, and in the Event of which, their Affections are interested. The laying a Country desolate with Fire and Sword, declaring War against the natural rights of all Mankind, and extirpating the Defenders thereof from the Face of the Earth, is the Concern of every Man to whom Nature hath given the Power of feeling; of which Class, regardless of Party Censure, is the
How can the cause of America be any more the cause of all mankind but to aspire their wanting to come here? So who is the Lover of Mankind, but the pro-migrant supporter? Who is the person that wants a unity to overcome tyranny? I believe the time for violence is over. It hasn’t done any good to go that route. So if this is a call to arms I see the Fire as the heart and compassion while the Sword is the pen and the voice. Ignorance believes you can control a public with the fear of punishment. Even Paine states “he may accomplish by craft and subtlety, in the long run, what he cannot do by force and violence in the short one.” Compassion believes you will overcome because at the heart of us all we know what is right. Some also call that Faith.
P. S. The Publication of this new Edition hath been delayed, with a View of taking notice (had it been necessary) of any Attempt to refute the Doctrine of Independence: As no Answer hath yet appeared, it is now presumed that none will, the Time needful for getting such a Performance ready for the Public being considerably past.
Who the Author of this Production is, is wholly unnecessary to the Public, as the Object for Attention is the DOCTRINE ITSELF, not the MAN. Yet it may not be unnecessary to say, That he is unconnected with any Party, and under no sort of Influence public or private, but the influence of reason and principle.
Philadelphia, February 14, 1776
I have been working on a book for the past year, regarding a new age American Revolution. Quite simply our political system is no longer effective; it serves those that have not earned nor deserve the benefit of public assistance; our government continually steals from the hard working American middle class. This may sound unfair; however; the politicians, illegal aliens, poor and indigent benefit daily from your wallets.
First of all there’s plenty of money to be earned in the U.S. if you so choose so nobody is taking money from your wallet. Failing to earn the money you desire should not be blamed on others. For those that believe “illegal aliens” are our biggest problem who defines an alien, but the government? The same government you want to overthrow. Since the government fails to give them citizenship or even allow many Hispanic countries into the lottery I guess you’d agree with that? Do you hate the poor and the crippled – “those that have not earned nor deserve the benefit of public assistance”? I’d love to see a world where neither had to exist, but you might as well hate the sky too. It’s one thing to hate that poverty exists, but another to vilify the poor. What have they done to offend you? This assertion is not only demeaning to those the break their backs everyday, but it demeans anyone who believes in common decency. Your assertion doesn’t sound unfair it just sounds ridiculous.
Your families go without while; illegal aliens, the poor, the indigent, the handicapped and many other groups; are living off of the backs of the middle class. We as a nation are nearly financially destroyed; our Medicare system is nearly insolvent; those of us that contribute to Social Security will probably never see our fair share.
Now I’m starting to worry about your world though you must be an intelligent person. The handicapped are now under attack too? Would you have them put down? Who in the middle-class is going without and what are they not able to enjoy? I saw plenty of people lined up at Best Buy this past Black Friday and we all saw the lines for Playstations and iphones. We’re they doing without a leather case for their iphone? The only ones doing without are the poor. Why not step on them further.
Our political leaders benefit from a sizeable paycheck and benefit package; far better than you or I; they also take these benefits with them as a pension plan; please understand this statement; I mean the lowliest elected town political office holder to the president. Our forefathers never intended for this to be the case; politicians should not be eligible for pensions, benefits or any other compensation for their services; they should receive a stipend for their services only. I am talking about trillions of dollars that are spent on the aforementioned compensations and to compound that with the money contributed to; illegal aliens, the poor, the indigent, the handicapped and many other groups. Our children, seniors and yes each of us are cheated out of numerous opportunities and the benefits of a government due to these problems. Thus the title of this entry;
I’m sorry, but you are truly making little sense here. If you have a problem with our politicians receiving too much money that’s great, we agree, but to demean the poor, migrants and even the handicapped you’re truly reaching into a void of heartlessness.
What is a government when that government no longer serves the very people that it was established to serve?
The answer is quite simple, it isn’t; our system is broken and we need to fix it now. We have (3)-three incompetent and questionable characters running for president; they leave us with more questions than answers. I have a resolution to these problems that I will include in my next post. It may sound radical; However; remember they have backed us into a corner; with very little escape. And too many great Americans have died for our freedom; they are our ancestors, our families, our friends; we cannot allow their ultimate sacrifices to be in vain.
An American Revolution; By the People and For the People.
It is truly sad to read somebody feels so terribly that they want to conduct a revolution against the poor, the handicapped and the many migrants in this country. It seems that their issue is with these people rather than the government. The government only seems to be the catalyst which allows such a terrible world to exist for this person. Personally I don’t think this person has a problem with our government because if the poor, the migrants and the handicapped were cast out then they would be living in the perfect country – well if they’d also lower politician’s wages.
Help me. I truly don’t understand. I guess I’ll have to wait for the next post……