The terrible story of a man beaten to death in Shenandoah, PA only gets worse when you read statements like this attempting to justify it:
Most of the comments talk about how this man’s legal status has nothing to do with his death. At the risk of being politically incorrect, I beg to differ. If Luis had stayed in his native country, where he legally belonged, he would not be dead right now.
By this this sad and twisted logic almost every crime could have been avoided if the victim simply didn’t happen to be at the scene. But truly this statement in a round-about way claims that all Mexicans are here illegally because these teens had no clue if this man was a legal citizen or not. Because he was Hispanic they judged him to be an illegal immigrant and beat him until he fell into a coma. If these teens have the capacity to kill so brutally then who’s to say who their victim would have been if Luis Ramirez hadn’t been their that night. How long would it have been before their lust for force and fury was unleashed on another victim?
If the quote above is not callous enough this blogger then begins to lay out the case in an attempt to turn a dead man into the antagonist. The blog quotes an account from an article stating the Ramirez’s were waiting for a tax return and would move back to Mexico.
As an illegal alien, Ramirez cannot get a social security number. He may have used an ITIN, but we don’t know if his employer hired him with an ITIN or a fraudulent SSN. Since Pennsylvania stopped recognizing new common law marriages, the couple would not be allowed to legally file a joint return. Tax law does not allow an ITIN-bearing taxpayer to claim Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC).
Next we get into the “rumors” section of the article. Rumor number one attempts to state this was not a hate crime:
Rumor #1. This was a racially-motivated “hate crime.”
The facts: All crimes are committed out of hate, plus there’s no evidence yet that Ramirez’s race (that of white mixed with Native American, generally referred to as Hispanic) played a part. The only reason some are assuming this is because a witness claims to have heard the group yelling ethnic slurs at the man and telling him to go back to Mexico. The witness was inside her own home with her air conditioning unit roaring, which she had to turn down so she could hear. A witness (possibly the same one – the news reports are skewed) claims to have seen Ramirez and another young man “wrestling.” That would lead us to believe that it wasn’t quite the group beat-down the Republican Herald would like us to think it is.
Actually all crimes are not committed out of hate. Many crimes are committed by accident (though beating a man to death is no accident) and many are done with no malice whatsoever such as speeding, littering, failing to pick up dog poo, or loitering. I think what this blogger meant to say is that all violent crimes are committed out of hate.
While this blogger takes a lawyer’s approach in proving the witness isn’t credible they fail to note this witness was an ex police officer. The article at The Republican Herald states:
Eileen Burke, a retired Philadelphia police officer who lives near the scene, said about the time of the beating she heard someone shouting “You tell all your Mexican friends to get out of town.”
“We saw a bunch of kids walking away and screaming things like … ‘Go back to Mexico.’ We called the police,” said Arielle Garcia, 17, a friend of Ramirez who was at the scene.
While the blogger, from PA Pundits, claims Burke’s air conditioner was “roaring” this former officer states:
“With the park across the street, I hear screaming all the time, but I turned down the air conditioning so I could hear what was going on and I could see kids going back and forth and a girl was screaming ‘Please stop hitting him,’ ” Burke said. “I called 911 to get an ambulance. There seemed to be too many kids around and I thought I’d better be safe than sorry. When I got out the front door, there was one kid running down the pavement. I heard a thud and the kid ran past again.”
Obviously the screaming was so loud it alerted Burke to make her way to the window. Should we believe the blogger or the officer? To believe the blogger is to state Burke lied in the article.
If this isn’t enough even the chief of police acknowledges issues in the town.
(from the AP article)Police Chief Matthew Nestor acknowledged there have been problems as the community — the birthplace of big band musicians Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey and home of Mrs. T’s Pierogies — has tried to adjust to an influx of Hispanics, who now comprise as much as 10 percent of the population.
In “Rumor #2” we are told that Luis was a felon on the run. Here the post pulls out the super sleuth and claims to have found that Luis Eduardo Ramirez is actually a felon named Eduardo Ramirez Zavala. Zavala is wanted for two counts of aggravated assault. Strangely this blogger attempts to prove Luis is a felon while asking us to hold off calling out members of the football team (Rumor #3) as participants until more facts are revealed.
Just as the blogger has no clue if the research is reliable neither do I. However, I can add that an article in The Republican Herald was quick to point out an advocate for justice was himself convicted of involuntary manslaughter which leads me to believe they’d jump all over any damning argument against Ramirez.
Baker, convicted in Schuylkill County Court of involuntary manslaughter in an unrelated case involving the 2005 death of Schuylkill Haven resident Brian Maltais, believes the charges in the Ramirez case have yet to be filed because the victim was Hispanic.
Next this blogger points us to threats apparently made in the comments section of The Republican Herald. Similarly, I’m sure we can find many such comments advocating the beating of Mexicans. Here’s one from ABC’s article:
The rest of the country needs to follow suit. We can beat them out of here quicker than we can deport them. The piece of trash that married him knowing that he was illegal needs to be deported along with her two illegal #### children. Posted by: nbclmns 6:49 AM
Moving on this blogger makes an odd comment:
The double standard is set. Illegal aliens kill thousands of Americans every year, yet few are ever made into online race wars. Many people don’t even realize that it happens because the media doesn’t want us to know. It doesn’t fit their agenda, so no airtime.
The media doesn’t want us to know? Type “illegal” into a Google News search and 80% of the articles that pop up are about immigration. This blogger’s statement is simply not true. From my perspective it seems that anytime the media can use the world “illegal” before alien or immigrant there’s jubilation. Sadly the term “illegal” is today’s catch phrase immediately demanding attention.
No person advocating for migrants is pro-murder or any other nonsense. Whether someone belongs here or not the idea that people have no problem murdering one another is not an immigration issue. The thousands of people who have died by the hands of undocumented migrants represent tragedies that no law, walls, or hatred will ever stop. They are as tragic as those who have died by the hands of citizens and we all live in the world, together, which creates the murderer’s mentality. When we breed a culture of hatred we will soon have to reap the harvest of our labors. When we plant love, compassion and forgiveness the harvest may not be plentiful in the first season, but as we enrich the soil and teach the plants to grow we will certainly benefit greatly.
In this case a group of teens beat a man to death. Reports state it was due to his being Hispanic which I believe; however, it had nothing to do with his status as a citizen nor anything to do with any criminal record he may have had. The boys did not operate under some judicial sixth sense that told them to take this man out. Anyone attempting to disprove the hatred or atrocity in this story should be ashamed of themselves.
Teenagers in Shenandoah beat a man to death. We should all be asking how could this happen in America?
To finish let me give you some comments I found at The Republican Herald:
get a life wrote on Jul 22, 2008 7:17 AM:
” Here we go again with another minority group playing with the race card!! ”
bob wrote on Jul 22, 2008 7:35 AM:
” Why isn’t the ICE their checking those Mexicians status to be in this country? Isn’t a crime to be in this country illegally ”
Alice wrote on Jul 22, 2008 8:23 AM:
” If it were a “Latino or an African-American person who did that to a Caucasian”, nobody would think twice about it, and it wouldn’t be called a “hate crime” because only whites can be racist. “
Here’s the link to the PA Pundits article Illegal Alien Beaten To Death In Shenandoah.